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  1. Jase

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    fair comments.

    im not saying its difficult to do, but if its such an easy skill to dismiss, why isn't it done during the performance?
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    [ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4128774194402953175"]Notes On Breakcore[/ame]
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    d&b - yes.

    Breakcore - i'll give it a miss thanks
  5. Phil Mitchell

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    good music knowledge + understanding of energy of tracks = good dj
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    Each to their own, it is my favourite genre of electronic music to see live because of the energy and vibe :up:

    To quote Jason Forrest - "I have a computer, I have some breakbeats. I can speed them up a bit, and make music out of them...... the idea that you have in punk rock music"
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    hence i didn't use the stock 'nucastle board' comment of " DEAR GOD LOL WTF LOL DAT IS SH1T U FKIN CHRV MNKEY MUSIC " , instead i expressed my opinion that it's too much for me and doesn't interest me :D :lol:
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    and you expected me to watch 30 minutes of footage and try and get to that myself? :lol:
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    I'm just being a pretentious cunt :wink:
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    thats so rare around here :lol: :D
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    its seems to me that you've learned how to do something, and then passed it off because you found it easy. difficulty level does not stop it from still being a skill, or part of one. by passing something does not count as doing it - and like i said, if its so easy, why not do it live?

    as for wishing i was dead; ive been using abes since 5 and im running a completely digital rig, 2x1k's + sl57, you ignorant cunt.
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    From some of the djs ive seen and mixes ive downloaded, it seems that any monkey can download the top 10 off beatport and now call themselves a dj just like anyone can setup a digital download record label and call themselves a "record label head honcho".

    Oh yeah, anyone can download a copy of ableton , emulate the "in-sound" and call themselves a record producer.

    Tell you what, this music lark isnt all that hard to crack after all!
  13. ManofScience

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    DJs nowadays are like shite tunes on your favourite legit MP3 download site - there's no quality control anymore and you have to listen to mountains of guff before you find something decent

    which is why vinyl used to make it more exclusive - certain DJs would only have certain sounds.

    but those days are gone so while MP3's are doing it damage, tools that allow people to change to add stuff to tunes, making it their own OR making a 1 off live performace can only bring back the exclusiveness to a live club
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    Hear Hear
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    or people could just put a bit of effort into it and explore the 20+ years of dance music thats available.
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    Funnily - 95% of all dj's i saw at glade were using ableton. It seems to be the 'in' thing to use for mixing psy trance.

    I might have been overly wrecked - but i barely saw anyone 'dj' with the thing either ....... it almost seemed like every track was laid out and arranged - and all the dj's were doing was a bit of mixer action....

    Perhaps its suited to more 'difficult' genres to mix.
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    Psytrance has never been vinyl based really. Back when it was kicking off in Goa in the early 90's, the DJ's used Digital Audio Tape's instead as the Goan heat, humidity and sand did not agree with the vinyl and the turntables. A few of the 'old school' DJ's still use DAT, eg Goa Gil.
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    True, but I would imagine it was a lot easier to back up DAT in the earlier 90's than a warped vinyl.

    Added to this the fact that many of the hippie DJ's from the 60's working in the genre from the beginning weren't bothered about beat matching (hence the long atmospheric portions in each track), and I can see why DAT was popular.

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